[10:23] g_bor: good morning or afternoon depending on timezone :)
[10:24] jgart: hi g_bor! good morning for me ha
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[10:27] Achille: Hi!
[10:27] Achille: not very loud jgart
[10:28] Achille: The meeting alarm XD
[10:28] Achille: Yes it's a lot better
[10:30] Achille: I never use this tool
[10:30] fabio: hi all!
[10:30] Achille: hi !
[10:34] Dhruvin Gandhi: hello everyone!
[10:35] jgart: https://man.sr.ht/~whereiseveryone/wiki/
[10:36] Achille: yes
[10:38] Alice Brenon: hi !!
[10:40] Achille: Hi !
[10:42] Matt: hi, finally have some audio working
[10:43] g_bor: just some thing that might be interesting:
[10:44] g_bor: https://patches.guix-patches.cbaines.net/project/guix-patches/list/
[10:44] g_bor: http://data.guix.gnu.org/
[10:46] g_bor: also, quick question: I have seen a package update under the upstream tag, maybe we could mark if it is just a refresh patch, or it contains something else than the version bump
[10:50] Matt: I agree, having a glossary would be helpful
[10:53] Alice Brenon: found a typo while re-reading the page ^^
[10:58] Matt: one of the major complaints in the mailing list was how to navigate guile, both the manual and things like geiser, but getting function help ingeneral
[10:58] Dhruvin Gandhi: fold-packages: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Running-Guix-Before-It-Is-Installed.html#Running-Guix-Before-It-Is-Installed
[11:00] Alice Brenon: is the term "module" appropriate for things like (guix licenses) ?
[11:01] Dhruvin Gandhi: Yes, (guix licenses) is guile module
[11:01] Alice Brenon: @roptat there's a lot of echo on your sound
[11:02] Alice Brenon: @Dhruvin Gandhi : thank you !
[11:06] Matt: there's the info system
[11:07] Matt: but you can't tell which manual
[11:07] Matt: how do you set that up in geiser, doc searching?
[11:08] Matt: that should be documented. I could not find how to set that up
[11:08] Alice Brenon: (how does pxref{…} work ? what are the various commas inside the {} ?? I supposed one was displayed text and the other one Page title, but there seems to be more than one)
[11:10] roptat: that's documented in the texinfo manual, I don't remember exactly, but at least name of the manual, name of the section and display text
[11:10] Alice Brenon: ok thanks
[11:10] Matt: @alice
[11:10] Matt: do you use emacs?
[11:10] Alice Brenon: nope, sorry : 3
[11:10] Matt: no, problem
[11:10] florhizome (florian): hey all
[11:11] Matt: @alice, what happens when you run `info texinfo`?
[11:11] Alice Brenon: I don't know, I was browsing it online
[11:11] florhizome (florian): it doesn t always work though
[11:12] florhizome (florian): search paths documentation!!!
[11:12] Matt: Okay, were you able to find the docs for pxref?
[11:12] Alice Brenon: @Matt: it underlines my lack of ability with browsing info pages
[11:12] Alice Brenon: (but I found it 😉)
[11:12] Matt: okay, cool
[11:12] Max: What I do is: $ guix environment guix --pure -- ./pre-inst-env guix repl --listen=tcp:37146
[11:13] Max: Then connect from geiser and you will have full discoverability
[11:13] roptat: https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/_0040xref.html
[11:13] Matt: thanks,@Max
[11:14] Alice Brenon: thank you @roptat, that's what I was browsing before @Matt challenged me to use info
[11:14] florhizome (florian): oof   
documentation about const/compose/ etc is also very bad
[11:14] Alice Brenon: not being able to use j/k to scroll is *weird* though
[11:14] florhizome (florian): and you need it for services
[11:15] Matt: @alice, for info?
[11:15] roptat: alias info='info --vi-keys'
[11:15] Alice Brenon: : )
[11:15] roptat: not perfect, but marginally better
[11:16] Alice Brenon: what a relief !
[11:16] Alice Brenon: you know me, I am but a poor vim girl, I do with what I know
[11:16] florhizome (florian): can i still add stuff
[11:17] Alice Brenon: ahah, can't even open a page now, pressing enter no longer works ^^
[11:19] florhizome (florian): can we make 3 general about guix source code, i would have additions
[11:20] florhizome (florian): or specific guix functionalities
[11:22] florhizome (florian): i think rust has like specific teams for that
[11:27] florhizome (florian): i think mzmic doesnt work?
[11:27] Achille: roptat français?
[11:27] Max: Regarding 9. You can use news reader (like gnus) and find guix archive on gmane
[11:28] roptat: Achille oui
[11:29] Matt: regarding the buddy system, this is the message I was thinking of: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2022-01/msg00216.html
[11:29] Achille: Ca fait plaisir de voir un français dans ce genre rendez vou archi nerd du logiciel libre :)
[11:29] Achille: *de rendez-vous
[11:31] roptat: je vais pas dénoncer mais on n'est pas que deux aujourd'hui
[11:32] Achille: Sorry everyone, I need go I have an appointment this evening.
[11:32] Achille: C'est qui?
[11:32] Alice Brenon: à plus Achille !
[11:33] Achille: Je crois que j'ai ma réponse xD
[11:33] florhizome (florian): my keyboard doesnt work again
[11:33] Achille: a+
[11:34] florhizome (florian): on wayland its the mic, on xorg its the keyboard
[11:35] florhizome (florian): i changed 3 so it can become a general accumulation of things that should be better documented in guix
[11:44] florhizome (florian): i think i cant contribute a lot to this, esp withbroken keyb. ill try to submit a list with stuff in guix that deserves better doc to guixrus soon. got a lot floating in my head
[11:49] florhizome (florian): Make this documentation better.
[11:49] florhizome (florian): ?
[11:51] fabio: it might be out of scope but the verbs' mode could be made more consistent? e.g.: improve vs improving
[11:51] fabio: v minor issue of course
[11:52] florhizome (florian): mic bad huh
[11:53] Alice Brenon: ^^
[11:53] florhizome (florian): damn pulseaudio
[11:54] Alice Brenon: I didn't remember building took such a long time
[11:54] florhizome (florian): how do i reconfigure my mic here
[11:55] Alice Brenon: guix system reconfigure mic.scm  ? ; )
[11:55] Alice Brenon: (is pulseaudio the matter ?)
[11:56] florhizome (florian): hm idk
[11:57] florhizome (florian): i never configured it right.  im usually on wayland anyways. i think also someone posted that the 5.15 kernel has been having some audio problems
[12:00] florhizome (florian): how would you do that? wouldnt you need the document in md then? 
i think you mean just send text and someinfo how it should be inserted?
[12:02] Alice Brenon: sorry folks, I forgot something I had to do
[12:02] Alice Brenon: I'll have to go
[12:02] Alice Brenon: see you around
[12:03] florhizome (florian): yeah i think me, too, doesnt make much sense without mic and keyboard. back to submitting mails >.>
[12:05] fabio: are we expecting (or do we want to suggest) a special email subject for documentation related emails?
[12:09] Matt: https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/html_node/Cross-Reference-Commands.html
[12:44] Dhruvin Gandhi: I'll have to go now. Here's what I've done during the call: RFC: https://lists.sr.ht/~whereiseveryone/public-inbox/patches/28348
[12:44] Dhruvin Gandhi: See you all in next call
[12:57] Matt: :%s/\s\+$//
[13:10] fabio: Yay!
[13:10] fabio: well done!